Can Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow Live Together?

Reviewed by Guidarium Editorial DeskUpdated May 6, 2026
Not Recommended

Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow are not recommended as tank mates due to no temperature overlap and piscivorous fish will prey on nano-sized tank mates.. Housing these species together is likely to result in stress, health problems, or direct harm to one or both fish.


At a Glance

Lima Shovelnose Catfish

Sorubim lima

White Cloud Mountain Minnow

Tanichthys albonubes

🐠Family Group
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
Catfish
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
Cyprinids
Temperament
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
Mostly Peaceful (4/10)
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
Peaceful (1/10)
Temperature
✗ No overlap
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
23–28°C
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
14–22°C
pH Range
✓ Compatible
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
6–7.5
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
6–8
Hardness (dGH)
✓ Compatible
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
4–15
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
5–20
Water Type
✓ Compatible
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
Freshwater Only
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
Freshwater Only
Flow Preference
✓ Compatible
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
Moderate
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
Moderate
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 500 L
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
500 L
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
38 L
Swimming Level
Shared: 1 zone
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
MiddleBottom
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
TopMiddle
🏷️Behavior Tags
Lima Shovelnose Catfish
Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish)NocturnalJumper (Lid Required)Shrimp Eater
White Cloud Mountain Minnow
Nano / Bite-sized (Predation Risk)Hyperactive / Fast SwimmerJumper (Lid Required)
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Can your tank handle Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow?

Compatibility is only part of the answer. Test both fish with your real tank size, current stock, and maintenance needs to see if you have enough space and a safe stocking level before you add them.

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Behaviour & Temperament

Lima Shovelnose Catfish is a generally mild-mannered species (4/10), while White Cloud Mountain Minnow is peaceful (1/10). This modest difference means Lima Shovelnose Catfish may occasionally assert dominance over White Cloud Mountain Minnow.

Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow both frequent the Middle (Open Water) region of the setup. This overlap can increase competition for space, so providing ample room and cover is important to keep both species comfortable.

There is a critical concern: the Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish) behaviour of one fish directly conflicts with the Nano / Bite-sized (Predation Risk) trait of the other — piscivorous fish will prey on nano-sized tank mates..

Additional behavioural considerations to keep in mind: Shrimp eaters may also prey on very small nano fish.

Worth noting: Lima Shovelnose Catfish is nocturnal and will be most active after lights-out, naturally reducing daytime encounters. Also, Lima Shovelnose Catfish is a known jumper, so a tight-fitting lid is essential.

Water Parameters

There is no temperature overlap between Lima Shovelnose Catfish (23–28°C) and White Cloud Mountain Minnow (14–22°C). This fundamental mismatch makes long-term cohabitation impractical.

Both fish can tolerate a pH between 6 and 7.5. Maintaining a stable value within this band is more important than hitting an exact number.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 5–15 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range.

Tank Setup

To house Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow together, plan for an aquarium of at least 500 litres with a minimum length of 150 cm. This recommendation combines the stricter species minimums with a community-load allowance so the pairing has realistic long-term space and filtration headroom.

Providing a mix of open swimming space and sheltered areas with rocks, driftwood, or plants will keep both species comfortable and allow natural behaviour.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Sand (Sifters), Smooth Gravel (Sensitive Barbels), Driftwood (Digestion/Hiding), Plants - Floating, Plants - Densely covered. Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Both species do well with moderate (standard) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

Why This Pairing Usually Fails in Practice

Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow are the kind of pair that can look acceptable in a shop but become a maintenance problem at home. The main risk is not a single number in the chart; it is the way incompatible behavior, water needs, or pressure on space compounds over time once both fish are established in the same tank.

Suitable Tank Sizes

Standard aquarium sizes large enough for both Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow.

Diet & Feeding

Feeding time deserves special attention with this pairing. Lima Shovelnose Catfish is a known shrimp eater and may prey on small invertebrates or nano fish like White Cloud Mountain Minnow.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow live together?

No. This combination is not recommended. Key incompatibilities — such as non-overlapping temperature ranges — make cohabitation unsafe.

What size tank do Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow need?

A minimum of 500 litres (tank length at least 150 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow together?

Unfortunately, there is no temperature range that satisfies both species. Lima Shovelnose Catfish requires 23–28°C, while White Cloud Mountain Minnow needs 14–22°C.

Are Lima Shovelnose Catfish or White Cloud Mountain Minnow aggressive?

Lima Shovelnose Catfish is generally mild-mannered (4/10) and White Cloud Mountain Minnow is peaceful (1/10). Their similar temperaments generally lead to a peaceful coexistence.

What pH do Lima Shovelnose Catfish and White Cloud Mountain Minnow need?

Both species overlap in the 6–7.5 pH range. Consistency is key — avoid sudden swings, and test regularly to stay within this window.

Does Lima Shovelnose Catfish being nocturnal affect compatibility?

Lima Shovelnose Catfish is most active after lights-out, which naturally reduces daytime encounters with its tank mate. This can actually be beneficial, as both fish get undisturbed time to feed and explore. Just ensure food reaches Lima Shovelnose Catfish during evening hours.

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Last reviewed
May 6, 2026
Last updated
May 6, 2026
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