Can Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon Live Together?

🟡Possible with Caution

Keeping Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon together is possible but requires caution due to potential behavioral clashes. Provide a spacious tank of at least 132 litres with plenty of hiding spots to reduce stress. Monitor behaviour closely, especially during the first few weeks.


At a Glance

Clown Pleco (L104)

Panaqolus maccus

Empire Gudgeon

Hypseleotris compressa

🐠Family Group
Clown Pleco (L104)
Catfish
Empire Gudgeon
Gobies & Gudgeons
Temperament
Clown Pleco (L104)
Mostly Peaceful (3/10)
Empire Gudgeon
Mostly Peaceful (3/10)
Temperature
✓ Compatible
Clown Pleco (L104)
23–28°C
Empire Gudgeon
20–28°C
pH Range
✓ Compatible
Clown Pleco (L104)
6–7.8
Empire Gudgeon
6.5–8.5
Hardness (dGH)
✓ Compatible
Clown Pleco (L104)
4–15
Empire Gudgeon
5–20
Water Type
✓ Compatible
Clown Pleco (L104)
Freshwater Only
Empire Gudgeon
Brackish Tolerant
Flow Preference
✓ Compatible
Clown Pleco (L104)
Moderate
Empire Gudgeon
Moderate
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 132 L
Clown Pleco (L104)
75 L
Empire Gudgeon
110 L
Swimming Level
Shared: 1 zone
Clown Pleco (L104)
Bottom
Empire Gudgeon
MiddleBottom
🏷️Behavior Tags
Clown Pleco (L104)
Shy / Slow Moving (Easily Stressed)NocturnalTerritorial (Defends specific area)
Empire Gudgeon
Shrimp EaterFry PredatorHyperactive / Fast SwimmerJumper (Lid Required)

Behaviour & Temperament

Both Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon are generally mild-mannered species with an aggression score of 3/10. Their matching temperaments mean neither fish is likely to dominate the other in a shared aquarium.

Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon both frequent the Bottom (Substrate) region of the setup. This overlap can increase competition for space, so providing ample room and cover is important to keep both species comfortable.

Additional behavioural considerations to keep in mind: Hyperactive swimmers can stress shy, slow-moving species through constant motion.

Worth noting: Clown Pleco (L104) is nocturnal and will be most active after lights-out, naturally reducing daytime encounters. Also, Empire Gudgeon is a known jumper, so a tight-fitting lid is essential.

To improve the chances of a peaceful coexistence in this community tank: Provide a significantly larger tank (at least 50% more volume than the minimum) to allow both Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon to establish separate territories. Add plenty of line-of-sight breaks using driftwood, rocks, and dense planting to reduce territorial confrontations. A larger aquarium with ample hiding spots can help diffuse aggression and give the less dominant fish space to retreat.

Water Parameters

The safe temperature window for both species falls between 23°C and 28°C. Aim for the midpoint of this range (around 25.5°C) for optimal comfort.

Both fish can tolerate a pH between 6.5 and 7.8. Maintaining a stable value within this band is more important than hitting an exact number.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 5–15 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range. An aquarium test kit is recommended for monitoring.

Tank Setup

To house Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon together, plan for an aquarium of at least 132 litres with a minimum length of 90 cm. This accounts for the larger species' space requirements with an additional 20 % buffer to reduce territorial tension.

Because this pairing requires extra vigilance, include plenty of hiding spots — caves, driftwood, and dense plant clusters — so the less dominant fish can retreat when needed.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Driftwood (Digestion/Hiding), Plants - Densely covered, Sand (Sifters). Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Both species do well with moderate (standard) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Can Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon live together?

They can coexist, but the pairing requires careful monitoring. Provide ample space (at least 132 litres), plenty of hiding spots, and watch for signs of stress or aggression.

What size tank do Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon need?

A minimum of 132 litres (tank length at least 90 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon together?

Keep the aquarium between 23°C and 28°C. A target of around 25.5°C sits comfortably within both species' preferred ranges.

Are Clown Pleco (L104) or Empire Gudgeon aggressive?

Clown Pleco (L104) is generally mild-mannered (3/10) and Empire Gudgeon is generally mild-mannered (3/10). Their similar temperaments generally lead to a peaceful coexistence.

What pH do Clown Pleco (L104) and Empire Gudgeon need?

Both species overlap in the 6.5–7.8 pH range. Consistency is key — avoid sudden swings, and test regularly to stay within this window.

How do I manage Clown Pleco (L104)'s territorial behaviour?

Provide line-of-sight breaks using rocks, driftwood, and dense planting. A larger tank gives Clown Pleco (L104) space to claim a territory without encroaching on the other fish's area. Adding décor that divides the tank into distinct zones works especially well.

Does Clown Pleco (L104) being nocturnal affect compatibility?

Clown Pleco (L104) is most active after lights-out, which naturally reduces daytime encounters with its tank mate. This can actually be beneficial, as both fish get undisturbed time to feed and explore. Just ensure food reaches Clown Pleco (L104) during evening hours.


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