Can Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar Live Together?

Reviewed by Guidarium Editorial DeskUpdated May 11, 2026
Not Recommended

Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar are not recommended as tank mates due to piscivorous fish will prey on nano-sized tank mates.. Housing these species together is likely to result in stress, health problems, or direct harm to one or both fish.


At a Glance

Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)

Melanoides tuberculata

Shortnose Gar

Lepisosteus platostomus

🐠Family Group
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
Invertebrates
Shortnose Gar
Oddballs
Temperament
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
Peaceful (0/10)
Shortnose Gar
Aggressive (7/10)
Temperature
✓ Compatible
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
18–32°C
Shortnose Gar
10–28°C
pH Range
✓ Compatible
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
7–8.5
Shortnose Gar
6–8
Hardness (dGH)
✓ Compatible
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
8–25
Shortnose Gar
5–20
Water Type
✓ Compatible
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
Brackish Tolerant
Shortnose Gar
Freshwater Only
Flow Preference
✓ Compatible
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
Low
Shortnose Gar
Low
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 1000 L
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
5 L
Shortnose Gar
1000 L
Swimming Level
✓ Different zones
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
Bottom
Shortnose Gar
TopMiddle
🏷️Behavior Tags
Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS)
Nano / Bite-sized (Predation Risk)Digger (Disturbs Substrate)Nocturnal
Shortnose Gar
Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish)Jumper (Lid Required)Hyperactive / Fast Swimmer
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Can your tank handle Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar?

Compatibility is only part of the answer. Test both fish with your real tank size, current stock, and maintenance needs to see if you have enough space and a safe stocking level before you add them.

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Behaviour & Temperament

Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) is a peaceful species (0/10), while Shortnose Gar is semi-aggressive (7/10). This notable difference means Shortnose Gar may occasionally assert dominance over Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS).

Large aggression gap (7 points) between Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar increases stress risk for the more peaceful fish.

In terms of spatial distribution, Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) prefers the Bottom (Substrate) zone, whereas Shortnose Gar occupies the Top (Surface) and Middle (Open Water) zones. Because they use different levels of the water column, territorial disputes are less likely and the tank will appear more balanced.

There is a critical concern: the Nano / Bite-sized (Predation Risk) behaviour of one fish directly conflicts with the Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish) trait of the other — piscivorous fish will prey on nano-sized tank mates..

Worth noting: Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) is nocturnal and will be most active after lights-out, naturally reducing daytime encounters. Also, Shortnose Gar is a known jumper, so a tight-fitting lid is essential.

Water Parameters

The safe temperature window for both species falls between 18°C and 28°C. Aim for the midpoint of this range (around 23.0°C) for optimal comfort.

Both fish can tolerate a pH between 7 and 8. Maintaining a stable value within this band is more important than hitting an exact number.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 8–20 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range.

Tank Setup

To house Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar together, plan for an aquarium of at least 1000 litres with a minimum length of 240 cm. This recommendation combines the stricter species minimums with a community-load allowance so the pairing has realistic long-term space and filtration headroom.

Providing a mix of open swimming space and sheltered areas with rocks, driftwood, or plants will keep both species comfortable and allow natural behaviour.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Sand (Sifters), Soil / Nutrient Rich, Smooth Gravel (Sensitive Barbels). Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Note a potential conflict in setup requirements: Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) requires Soil / Nutrient Rich, while Shortnose Gar requires Sand (Sifters). These substrate types may be difficult to provide simultaneously. Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) requires Soil / Nutrient Rich, while Shortnose Gar requires Smooth Gravel (Sensitive Barbels). These substrate types may be difficult to provide simultaneously. Compromise where possible or prioritise the more critical need.

Both species do well with low (still water) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

Why This Pairing Usually Fails in Practice

Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar are the kind of pair that can look acceptable in a shop but become a maintenance problem at home. The main risk is not a single number in the chart; it is the way incompatible behavior, water needs, or pressure on space compounds over time once both fish are established in the same tank.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar live together?

No. This combination is not recommended. Key incompatibilities — such as critical behavioural conflicts — make cohabitation unsafe.

What size tank do Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar need?

A minimum of 1000 litres (tank length at least 240 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar together?

Keep the aquarium between 18°C and 28°C. A target of around 23.0°C sits comfortably within both species' preferred ranges.

Are Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) or Shortnose Gar aggressive?

Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) is peaceful (0/10) and Shortnose Gar is semi-aggressive (7/10). The gap in aggression levels means the calmer fish may experience stress from the more assertive one.

What pH do Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) and Shortnose Gar need?

Both species overlap in the 7–8 pH range. Consistency is key — avoid sudden swings, and test regularly to stay within this window.

Does Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) being nocturnal affect compatibility?

Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) is most active after lights-out, which naturally reduces daytime encounters with its tank mate. This can actually be beneficial, as both fish get undisturbed time to feed and explore. Just ensure food reaches Malaysian Trumpet Snail (MTS) during evening hours.

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Last reviewed
May 11, 2026
Last updated
May 11, 2026
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