Can Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) Live Together?

Reviewed by Guidarium Editorial DeskUpdated May 4, 2026
Not Recommended

Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) are not recommended as tank mates due to conflicting pH requirements. Housing these species together is likely to result in stress, health problems, or direct harm to one or both fish.


At a Glance

Electric Blue Johannii

Pseudotropheus johannii

Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)

Datnioides microlepis

🐠Family Group
Electric Blue Johannii
Cichlids - African
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
Oddballs
Temperament
Electric Blue Johannii
Aggressive (8/10)
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
Semi-Aggressive (6/10)
Temperature
✓ Compatible
Electric Blue Johannii
24–28°C
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
24–28°C
pH Range
✗ No overlap
Electric Blue Johannii
7.8–8.6
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
6.5–7.5
Hardness (dGH)
✓ Compatible
Electric Blue Johannii
10–25
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
5–15
Water Type
✓ Compatible
Electric Blue Johannii
Freshwater Only
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
Freshwater Only
Flow Preference
✓ Compatible
Electric Blue Johannii
Moderate
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
Moderate
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 680 L
Electric Blue Johannii
150 L
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
680 L
Swimming Level
Shared: 2 zones
Electric Blue Johannii
MiddleBottom
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
MiddleBottom
🏷️Behavior Tags
Electric Blue Johannii
Generally AggressiveAggressive to same species/look-alikesTerritorial (Defends specific area)Digger (Disturbs Substrate)Plant DestroyerHyperactive / Fast Swimmer
Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)
Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish)Shrimp EaterFry PredatorAggressive to same species/look-alikesShy / Slow Moving (Easily Stressed)
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Can your tank handle Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)?

Compatibility is only part of the answer. Test both fish with your real tank size, current stock, and maintenance needs to see if you have enough space and a safe stocking level before you add them.

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Behaviour & Temperament

Electric Blue Johannii is a semi-aggressive species (8/10), while Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) is moderately assertive (6/10). This modest difference means Electric Blue Johannii may occasionally assert dominance over Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish).

Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) both frequent the Middle (Open Water) and Bottom (Substrate) region of the setup. This overlap can increase competition for space, so providing ample room and cover is important to keep both species comfortable.

Additional behavioural considerations to keep in mind: Aggressive fish may bully and stress shy, slow-moving species. Hyperactive swimmers can stress shy, slow-moving species through constant motion.

Water Parameters

The safe temperature window for both species falls between 24°C and 28°C. Aim for the midpoint of this range (around 26.0°C) for optimal comfort.

The pH requirements of Electric Blue Johannii (7.8–8.6) and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) (6.5–7.5) do not overlap, making it impossible to satisfy both species simultaneously.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 10–15 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range.

Tank Setup

To house Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) together, plan for an aquarium of at least 680 litres with a minimum length of 180 cm. This recommendation combines the stricter species minimums with a community-load allowance so the pairing has realistic long-term space and filtration headroom.

Providing a mix of open swimming space and sheltered areas with rocks, driftwood, or plants will keep both species comfortable and allow natural behaviour.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Sand (Sifters), Established Algae (Otocinclus), Driftwood (Digestion/Hiding), Plants - Densely covered. Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Note a potential conflict in setup requirements: Electric Blue Johannii is a plant destroyer, which conflicts with Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish)'s requirement for live plants. Compromise where possible or prioritise the more critical need.

Both species do well with moderate (standard) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

Why This Pairing Usually Fails in Practice

Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) are the kind of pair that can look acceptable in a shop but become a maintenance problem at home. The main risk is not a single number in the chart; it is the way incompatible behavior, water needs, or pressure on space compounds over time once both fish are established in the same tank.

Suitable Tank Sizes

Standard aquarium sizes large enough for both Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish).

Frequently Asked Questions

Can Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) live together?

No. This combination is not recommended. Key incompatibilities — such as critical behavioural conflicts — make cohabitation unsafe.

What size tank do Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) need?

A minimum of 680 litres (tank length at least 180 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) together?

Keep the aquarium between 24°C and 28°C. A target of around 26.0°C sits comfortably within both species' preferred ranges.

Are Electric Blue Johannii or Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) aggressive?

Electric Blue Johannii is semi-aggressive (8/10) and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) is moderately assertive (6/10). Their similar temperaments generally lead to a peaceful coexistence.

What pH do Electric Blue Johannii and Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) need?

Their pH requirements do not overlap. Electric Blue Johannii prefers 7.8–8.6, while Indonesian Datnoid (Tiger Fish) needs 6.5–7.5. This makes them incompatible in the same water chemistry.

How do I manage Electric Blue Johannii's territorial behaviour?

Provide line-of-sight breaks using rocks, driftwood, and dense planting. A larger tank gives Electric Blue Johannii space to claim a territory without encroaching on the other fish's area. Adding décor that divides the tank into distinct zones works especially well.

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Last reviewed
May 4, 2026
Last updated
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