Can Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid Live Together?

Reviewed by Guidarium Editorial DeskUpdated May 11, 2026
Not Recommended

Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid are not recommended as tank mates due to piscivorous fish will prey on nano-sized tank mates.. Housing these species together is likely to result in stress, health problems, or direct harm to one or both fish.


At a Glance

Red Tupfel Shrimp

Caridina serrata

Thinbar Datnoid

Datnioides undecimradiatus

🐠Family Group
Red Tupfel Shrimp
Invertebrates
Thinbar Datnoid
Oddballs
Temperament
Red Tupfel Shrimp
Peaceful (0/10)
Thinbar Datnoid
Semi-Aggressive (6/10)
Temperature
✓ Compatible
Red Tupfel Shrimp
18–25°C
Thinbar Datnoid
24–28°C
pH Range
✓ Compatible
Red Tupfel Shrimp
6–7.5
Thinbar Datnoid
6.5–7.5
Hardness (dGH)
✓ Compatible
Red Tupfel Shrimp
4–10
Thinbar Datnoid
5–18
Water Type
✓ Compatible
Red Tupfel Shrimp
Freshwater Only
Thinbar Datnoid
Brackish Tolerant
Flow Preference
✓ Compatible
Red Tupfel Shrimp
Low
Thinbar Datnoid
Moderate
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 570 L
Red Tupfel Shrimp
19 L
Thinbar Datnoid
570 L
Swimming Level
Shared: 2 zones
Red Tupfel Shrimp
BottomMiddle
Thinbar Datnoid
MiddleBottom
🏷️Behavior Tags
Red Tupfel Shrimp
Nano / Bite-sized (Predation Risk)Hyperactive / Fast Swimmer
Thinbar Datnoid
Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish)Shrimp EaterFry PredatorShy / Slow Moving (Easily Stressed)Territorial (Defends specific area)Aggressive to same species/look-alikes
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Can your tank handle Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid?

Compatibility is only part of the answer. Test both fish with your real tank size, current stock, and maintenance needs to see if you have enough space and a safe stocking level before you add them.

Red Tupfel Shrimp
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Behaviour & Temperament

Red Tupfel Shrimp is a peaceful species (0/10), while Thinbar Datnoid is moderately assertive (6/10). This notable difference means Thinbar Datnoid may occasionally assert dominance over Red Tupfel Shrimp.

Large aggression gap (6 points) between Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid increases stress risk for the more peaceful fish.

Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid both frequent the Bottom (Substrate) and Middle (Open Water) region of the setup. This overlap can increase competition for space, so providing ample room and cover is important to keep both species comfortable.

There is a critical concern: the Nano / Bite-sized (Predation Risk) behaviour of one fish directly conflicts with the Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish) trait of the other — piscivorous fish will prey on nano-sized tank mates..

Additional behavioural considerations to keep in mind: Hyperactive swimmers can stress shy, slow-moving species through constant motion. Shrimp eaters may also prey on very small nano fish.

Water Parameters

The safe temperature window for both species falls between 24°C and 25°C. Aim for the midpoint of this range (around 24.5°C) for optimal comfort.

Both fish can tolerate a pH between 6.5 and 7.5. Maintaining a stable value within this band is more important than hitting an exact number.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 5–10 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range.

Tank Setup

To house Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid together, plan for an aquarium of at least 570 litres with a minimum length of 150 cm. This recommendation combines the stricter species minimums with a community-load allowance so the pairing has realistic long-term space and filtration headroom.

Providing a mix of open swimming space and sheltered areas with rocks, driftwood, or plants will keep both species comfortable and allow natural behaviour.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Established Algae (Otocinclus), Plants - Densely covered, Leaf Litter/Blackwater, Driftwood (Digestion/Hiding), Plants - Floating. Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Both species do well with low (still water) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

Why This Pairing Usually Fails in Practice

Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid are the kind of pair that can look acceptable in a shop but become a maintenance problem at home. The main risk is not a single number in the chart; it is the way incompatible behavior, water needs, or pressure on space compounds over time once both fish are established in the same tank.

Suitable Tank Sizes

Standard aquarium sizes large enough for both Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid.

Diet & Feeding

Feeding time deserves special attention with this pairing. Thinbar Datnoid is a known shrimp eater and may prey on small invertebrates or nano fish like Red Tupfel Shrimp.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid live together?

No. This combination is not recommended. Key incompatibilities — such as critical behavioural conflicts — make cohabitation unsafe.

What size tank do Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid need?

A minimum of 570 litres (tank length at least 150 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid together?

Keep the aquarium between 24°C and 25°C. A target of around 24.5°C sits comfortably within both species' preferred ranges.

Are Red Tupfel Shrimp or Thinbar Datnoid aggressive?

Red Tupfel Shrimp is peaceful (0/10) and Thinbar Datnoid is moderately assertive (6/10). The gap in aggression levels means the calmer fish may experience stress from the more assertive one.

What pH do Red Tupfel Shrimp and Thinbar Datnoid need?

Both species overlap in the 6.5–7.5 pH range. Consistency is key — avoid sudden swings, and test regularly to stay within this window.

How do I manage Thinbar Datnoid's territorial behaviour?

Provide line-of-sight breaks using rocks, driftwood, and dense planting. A larger tank gives Thinbar Datnoid space to claim a territory without encroaching on the other fish's area. Adding décor that divides the tank into distinct zones works especially well.

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Last reviewed
May 11, 2026
Last updated
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