Can Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid Live Together?

Reviewed by Guidarium Editorial DeskUpdated May 11, 2026
Not Recommended

Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid are not recommended as tank mates due to conflicting pH requirements. Housing these species together is likely to result in stress, health problems, or direct harm to one or both fish.


At a Glance

Neolamprologus Tretocephalus

Neolamprologus tretocephalus

Thinbar Datnoid

Datnioides undecimradiatus

🐠Family Group
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
Cichlids - African
Thinbar Datnoid
Oddballs
Temperament
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
Aggressive (8/10)
Thinbar Datnoid
Semi-Aggressive (6/10)
Temperature
✓ Compatible
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
24–28°C
Thinbar Datnoid
24–28°C
pH Range
✗ No overlap
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
8–9
Thinbar Datnoid
6.5–7.5
Hardness (dGH)
✓ Compatible
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
10–25
Thinbar Datnoid
5–18
Water Type
✓ Compatible
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
Freshwater Only
Thinbar Datnoid
Brackish Tolerant
Flow Preference
✓ Compatible
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
Moderate
Thinbar Datnoid
Moderate
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 570 L
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
150 L
Thinbar Datnoid
570 L
Swimming Level
Shared: 2 zones
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
BottomMiddle
Thinbar Datnoid
MiddleBottom
🏷️Behavior Tags
Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
Snail EaterGenerally AggressiveAggressive to same species/look-alikesTerritorial (Defends specific area)Digger (Disturbs Substrate)
Thinbar Datnoid
Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish)Shrimp EaterFry PredatorShy / Slow Moving (Easily Stressed)Territorial (Defends specific area)Aggressive to same species/look-alikes
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Can your tank handle Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid?

Compatibility is only part of the answer. Test both fish with your real tank size, current stock, and maintenance needs to see if you have enough space and a safe stocking level before you add them.

Neolamprologus Tretocephalus
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Behaviour & Temperament

Neolamprologus Tretocephalus is a semi-aggressive species (8/10), while Thinbar Datnoid is moderately assertive (6/10). This modest difference means Neolamprologus Tretocephalus may occasionally assert dominance over Thinbar Datnoid.

Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid both frequent the Bottom (Substrate) and Middle (Open Water) region of the setup. This overlap can increase competition for space, so providing ample room and cover is important to keep both species comfortable.

Additional behavioural considerations to keep in mind: Aggressive fish may bully and stress shy, slow-moving species. Two territorial species may clash over territory, especially in smaller tanks.

Water Parameters

The safe temperature window for both species falls between 24°C and 28°C. Aim for the midpoint of this range (around 26.0°C) for optimal comfort.

The pH requirements of Neolamprologus Tretocephalus (8–9) and Thinbar Datnoid (6.5–7.5) do not overlap, making it impossible to satisfy both species simultaneously.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 10–18 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range.

Tank Setup

To house Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid together, plan for an aquarium of at least 570 litres with a minimum length of 150 cm. This recommendation combines the stricter species minimums with a community-load allowance so the pairing has realistic long-term space and filtration headroom.

Providing a mix of open swimming space and sheltered areas with rocks, driftwood, or plants will keep both species comfortable and allow natural behaviour.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Sand (Sifters), Smooth Gravel (Sensitive Barbels), Driftwood (Digestion/Hiding), Plants - Floating. Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Both species do well with moderate (standard) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

Why This Pairing Usually Fails in Practice

Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid are the kind of pair that can look acceptable in a shop but become a maintenance problem at home. The main risk is not a single number in the chart; it is the way incompatible behavior, water needs, or pressure on space compounds over time once both fish are established in the same tank.

Suitable Tank Sizes

Standard aquarium sizes large enough for both Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid live together?

No. This combination is not recommended. Key incompatibilities — such as critical behavioural conflicts — make cohabitation unsafe.

What size tank do Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid need?

A minimum of 570 litres (tank length at least 150 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid together?

Keep the aquarium between 24°C and 28°C. A target of around 26.0°C sits comfortably within both species' preferred ranges.

Are Neolamprologus Tretocephalus or Thinbar Datnoid aggressive?

Neolamprologus Tretocephalus is semi-aggressive (8/10) and Thinbar Datnoid is moderately assertive (6/10). Their similar temperaments generally lead to a peaceful coexistence.

What pH do Neolamprologus Tretocephalus and Thinbar Datnoid need?

Their pH requirements do not overlap. Neolamprologus Tretocephalus prefers 8–9, while Thinbar Datnoid needs 6.5–7.5. This makes them incompatible in the same water chemistry.

How do I manage Neolamprologus Tretocephalus's territorial behaviour?

Provide line-of-sight breaks using rocks, driftwood, and dense planting. A larger tank gives Neolamprologus Tretocephalus space to claim a territory without encroaching on the other fish's area. Adding décor that divides the tank into distinct zones works especially well.

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Last reviewed
May 11, 2026
Last updated
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