Can Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid Live Together?

Reviewed by Guidarium Editorial DeskUpdated May 11, 2026
Not Recommended

Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid are not recommended as tank mates due to conflicting pH requirements. Housing these species together is likely to result in stress, health problems, or direct harm to one or both fish.


At a Glance

Golden Julie

Julidochromis ornatus

Thinbar Datnoid

Datnioides undecimradiatus

🐠Family Group
Golden Julie
Cichlids - African
Thinbar Datnoid
Oddballs
Temperament
Golden Julie
Semi-Aggressive (6/10)
Thinbar Datnoid
Semi-Aggressive (6/10)
Temperature
✓ Compatible
Golden Julie
23–27°C
Thinbar Datnoid
24–28°C
pH Range
✗ No overlap
Golden Julie
8–9
Thinbar Datnoid
6.5–7.5
Hardness (dGH)
✓ Compatible
Golden Julie
10–25
Thinbar Datnoid
5–18
Water Type
✓ Compatible
Golden Julie
Freshwater Only
Thinbar Datnoid
Brackish Tolerant
Flow Preference
✓ Compatible
Golden Julie
Moderate
Thinbar Datnoid
Moderate
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 570 L
Golden Julie
75 L
Thinbar Datnoid
570 L
Swimming Level
Shared: 2 zones
Golden Julie
BottomMiddle
Thinbar Datnoid
MiddleBottom
🏷️Behavior Tags
Golden Julie
Territorial (Defends specific area)Aggressive to same species/look-alikesShy / Slow Moving (Easily Stressed)
Thinbar Datnoid
Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish)Shrimp EaterFry PredatorShy / Slow Moving (Easily Stressed)Territorial (Defends specific area)Aggressive to same species/look-alikes
Stocking calculator

Can your tank handle Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid?

Compatibility is only part of the answer. Test both fish with your real tank size, current stock, and maintenance needs to see if you have enough space and a safe stocking level before you add them.

Golden Julie
Thinbar Datnoid
Test both in my tank

Behaviour & Temperament

Both Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid are moderately assertive species with an aggression score of 6/10. Their matching temperaments mean neither fish is likely to dominate the other in a shared aquarium.

Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid both frequent the Bottom (Substrate) and Middle (Open Water) region of the setup. This overlap can increase competition for space, so providing ample room and cover is important to keep both species comfortable.

Additional behavioural considerations to keep in mind: Two territorial species may clash over territory, especially in smaller tanks.

Water Parameters

The safe temperature window for both species falls between 24°C and 27°C. Aim for the midpoint of this range (around 25.5°C) for optimal comfort.

The pH requirements of Golden Julie (8–9) and Thinbar Datnoid (6.5–7.5) do not overlap, making it impossible to satisfy both species simultaneously.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 10–18 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range.

Tank Setup

To house Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid together, plan for an aquarium of at least 570 litres with a minimum length of 150 cm. This recommendation combines the stricter species minimums with a community-load allowance so the pairing has realistic long-term space and filtration headroom.

Providing a mix of open swimming space and sheltered areas with rocks, driftwood, or plants will keep both species comfortable and allow natural behaviour.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Sand (Sifters), Driftwood (Digestion/Hiding), Plants - Floating. Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Both species do well with moderate (standard) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

Why This Pairing Usually Fails in Practice

Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid are the kind of pair that can look acceptable in a shop but become a maintenance problem at home. The main risk is not a single number in the chart; it is the way incompatible behavior, water needs, or pressure on space compounds over time once both fish are established in the same tank.

Suitable Tank Sizes

Standard aquarium sizes large enough for both Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid live together?

No. This combination is not recommended. Key incompatibilities — such as critical behavioural conflicts — make cohabitation unsafe.

What size tank do Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid need?

A minimum of 570 litres (tank length at least 150 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid together?

Keep the aquarium between 24°C and 27°C. A target of around 25.5°C sits comfortably within both species' preferred ranges.

Are Golden Julie or Thinbar Datnoid aggressive?

Golden Julie is moderately assertive (6/10) and Thinbar Datnoid is moderately assertive (6/10). Their similar temperaments generally lead to a peaceful coexistence.

What pH do Golden Julie and Thinbar Datnoid need?

Their pH requirements do not overlap. Golden Julie prefers 8–9, while Thinbar Datnoid needs 6.5–7.5. This makes them incompatible in the same water chemistry.

How do I manage Golden Julie's territorial behaviour?

Provide line-of-sight breaks using rocks, driftwood, and dense planting. A larger tank gives Golden Julie space to claim a territory without encroaching on the other fish's area. Adding décor that divides the tank into distinct zones works especially well.

Editorial Review

Guidarium Editorial Desk

Reviewed against Guidarium care, stocking, and compatibility standards. Read the editorial policy.

Last reviewed
May 11, 2026
Last updated
May 11, 2026
Issues or corrections?
Contact the editorial team

Related Comparisons