Can Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) Live Together?

Possible with Caution

Keeping Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) together is possible but requires caution, though some care is needed. Provide a spacious tank of at least 1000 litres with plenty of hiding spots to reduce stress. Monitor behaviour closely, especially during the first few weeks.


At a Glance

Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)

Leptobarbus hoevenii

False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)

Garra cambodgiensis

🐟Family Group
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
Cyprinids
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
Cyprinids
Temperament
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
Mostly Peaceful (4/10)
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
Semi-Aggressive (5/10)
Temperature
βœ“ Compatible
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
23–28Β°C
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
20–27Β°C
pH Range
βœ“ Compatible
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
6–8
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
6–7.5
Hardness (dGH)
βœ“ Compatible
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
4–15
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
2–15
Water Type
βœ“ Compatible
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
Freshwater Only
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
Freshwater Only
Flow Preference
βœ“ Compatible
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
High
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
High
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 1000 L
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
1000 L
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
110 L
Swimming Level
βœ“ Different zones
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
MiddleTop
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
Bottom
🏷️Behavior Tags
Cigar Shark (Mad Barb)
Hyperactive / Fast SwimmerJumper (Lid Required)Piscivore (Eats small/nano fish)Plant DestroyerAggressive Eater (Starves shy fish)
False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)
Hyperactive / Fast SwimmerAggressive to same species/look-alikesTerritorial (Defends specific area)Jumper (Lid Required)
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Can your tank handle Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)?

Compatibility is only part of the answer. Test both fish with your real tank size, current stock, and maintenance needs to see if you have enough space and a safe stocking level before you add them.

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Behaviour & Temperament

Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) is a generally mild-mannered species (4/10), while False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) is moderately assertive (5/10). This modest difference means False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) may occasionally assert dominance over Cigar Shark (Mad Barb).

In terms of spatial distribution, Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) prefers the Middle (Open Water) and Top (Surface) zones, whereas False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) occupies the Bottom (Substrate) zone. Because they use different levels of the water column, territorial disputes are less likely and the tank will appear more balanced.

Worth noting: Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) is a known jumper, so a tight-fitting lid is essential.

To improve the chances of a peaceful coexistence in this community tank: Provide a significantly larger tank (at least 50% more volume than the minimum) to allow both Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) to establish separate territories. Add plenty of line-of-sight breaks using driftwood, rocks, and dense planting to reduce territorial confrontations.

Water Parameters

The safe temperature window for both species falls between 23Β°C and 27Β°C. Aim for the midpoint of this range (around 25.0Β°C) for optimal comfort.

Both fish can tolerate a pH between 6 and 7.5. Maintaining a stable value within this band is more important than hitting an exact number.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 4–15 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range.

Tank Setup

To house Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) together, plan for an aquarium of at least 1000 litres with a minimum length of 240 cm. This recommendation combines the stricter species minimums with a community-load allowance so the pairing has realistic long-term space and filtration headroom.

Because this pairing requires extra vigilance, include plenty of hiding spots β€” caves, driftwood, and dense plant clusters β€” so the less dominant fish can retreat when needed.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Smooth Gravel (Sensitive Barbels), Established Algae (Otocinclus), Driftwood (Digestion/Hiding). Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Both species do well with high (river/stream) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) live together?

They can coexist, but the pairing requires careful monitoring. Provide ample space (at least 1000 litres), plenty of hiding spots, and watch for signs of stress or aggression.

What size tank do Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) need?

A minimum of 1000 litres (tank length at least 240 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) together?

Keep the aquarium between 23Β°C and 27Β°C. A target of around 25.0Β°C sits comfortably within both species' preferred ranges.

Are Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) or False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) aggressive?

Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) is generally mild-mannered (4/10) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) is moderately assertive (5/10). Their similar temperaments generally lead to a peaceful coexistence.

What pH do Cigar Shark (Mad Barb) and False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) need?

Both species overlap in the 6–7.5 pH range. Consistency is key β€” avoid sudden swings, and test regularly to stay within this window.

How do I manage False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow)'s territorial behaviour?

Provide line-of-sight breaks using rocks, driftwood, and dense planting. A larger tank gives False Siamese Algae Eater (Stonelapping Minnow) space to claim a territory without encroaching on the other fish's area. Adding dΓ©cor that divides the tank into distinct zones works especially well.


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