Can Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii Live Together?

Reviewed by Guidarium Editorial DeskUpdated May 4, 2026
Not Recommended

Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii are not recommended as tank mates due to conflicting pH requirements. Housing these species together is likely to result in stress, health problems, or direct harm to one or both fish.


At a Glance

Butterfly Pleco (L168)

Dekeyseria brachyura

Electric Blue Johannii

Pseudotropheus johannii

🐠Family Group
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
Catfish
Electric Blue Johannii
Cichlids - African
Temperament
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
Peaceful (2/10)
Electric Blue Johannii
Aggressive (8/10)
Temperature
✓ Compatible
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
25–28°C
Electric Blue Johannii
24–28°C
pH Range
✗ No overlap
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
5.5–7
Electric Blue Johannii
7.8–8.6
Hardness (dGH)
✓ Compatible
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
2–10
Electric Blue Johannii
10–25
Water Type
✓ Compatible
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
Freshwater Only
Electric Blue Johannii
Freshwater Only
Flow Preference
✓ Compatible
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
High
Electric Blue Johannii
Moderate
Min Tank Volume
Combined: 224 L
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
115 L
Electric Blue Johannii
150 L
Swimming Level
Shared: 1 zone
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
Bottom
Electric Blue Johannii
MiddleBottom
🏷️Behavior Tags
Butterfly Pleco (L168)
Shy / Slow Moving (Easily Stressed)NocturnalTerritorial (Defends specific area)
Electric Blue Johannii
Generally AggressiveAggressive to same species/look-alikesTerritorial (Defends specific area)Digger (Disturbs Substrate)Plant DestroyerHyperactive / Fast Swimmer
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Can your tank handle Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii?

Compatibility is only part of the answer. Test both fish with your real tank size, current stock, and maintenance needs to see if you have enough space and a safe stocking level before you add them.

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Behaviour & Temperament

Butterfly Pleco (L168) is a peaceful species (2/10), while Electric Blue Johannii is semi-aggressive (8/10). This notable difference means Electric Blue Johannii may occasionally assert dominance over Butterfly Pleco (L168).

Large aggression gap (6 points) between Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii increases stress risk for the more peaceful fish.

Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii both frequent the Bottom (Substrate) region of the setup. This overlap can increase competition for space, so providing ample room and cover is important to keep both species comfortable.

Additional behavioural considerations to keep in mind: Aggressive fish may bully and stress shy, slow-moving species. Hyperactive swimmers can stress shy, slow-moving species through constant motion. Two territorial species may clash over territory, especially in smaller tanks.

Worth noting: Butterfly Pleco (L168) is nocturnal and will be most active after lights-out, naturally reducing daytime encounters.

Water Parameters

The safe temperature window for both species falls between 25°C and 28°C. Aim for the midpoint of this range (around 26.5°C) for optimal comfort.

The pH requirements of Butterfly Pleco (L168) (5.5–7) and Electric Blue Johannii (7.8–8.6) do not overlap, making it impossible to satisfy both species simultaneously.

For general hardness, the shared comfort zone is 10–10 dGH. Regular testing will ensure conditions stay within this range.

Tank Setup

To house Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii together, plan for an aquarium of at least 224 litres with a minimum length of 90 cm. This recommendation combines the stricter species minimums with a community-load allowance so the pairing has realistic long-term space and filtration headroom.

Providing a mix of open swimming space and sheltered areas with rocks, driftwood, or plants will keep both species comfortable and allow natural behaviour.

Specific environmental needs for this combination include: Driftwood (Digestion/Hiding), Smooth Gravel (Sensitive Barbels), Sand (Sifters), Established Algae (Otocinclus). Meeting these requirements will help both species thrive.

Both species do well with high (river/stream) water movement, so a standard filtration setup rated for the tank volume should suffice.

Why This Pairing Usually Fails in Practice

Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii are the kind of pair that can look acceptable in a shop but become a maintenance problem at home. The main risk is not a single number in the chart; it is the way incompatible behavior, water needs, or pressure on space compounds over time once both fish are established in the same tank.

Suitable Tank Sizes

Standard aquarium sizes large enough for both Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Can Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii live together?

No. This combination is not recommended. Key incompatibilities — such as critical behavioural conflicts — make cohabitation unsafe.

What size tank do Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii need?

A minimum of 224 litres (tank length at least 90 cm) is recommended. This provides enough space for both species to establish their own areas and reduces the likelihood of territorial disputes.

What water temperature is best for Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii together?

Keep the aquarium between 25°C and 28°C. A target of around 26.5°C sits comfortably within both species' preferred ranges.

Are Butterfly Pleco (L168) or Electric Blue Johannii aggressive?

Butterfly Pleco (L168) is peaceful (2/10) and Electric Blue Johannii is semi-aggressive (8/10). The gap in aggression levels means the calmer fish may experience stress from the more assertive one.

What pH do Butterfly Pleco (L168) and Electric Blue Johannii need?

Their pH requirements do not overlap. Butterfly Pleco (L168) prefers 5.5–7, while Electric Blue Johannii needs 7.8–8.6. This makes them incompatible in the same water chemistry.

How do I manage Butterfly Pleco (L168)'s territorial behaviour?

Provide line-of-sight breaks using rocks, driftwood, and dense planting. A larger tank gives Butterfly Pleco (L168) space to claim a territory without encroaching on the other fish's area. Adding décor that divides the tank into distinct zones works especially well.

Does Butterfly Pleco (L168) being nocturnal affect compatibility?

Butterfly Pleco (L168) is most active after lights-out, which naturally reduces daytime encounters with its tank mate. This can actually be beneficial, as both fish get undisturbed time to feed and explore. Just ensure food reaches Butterfly Pleco (L168) during evening hours.

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Last reviewed
May 4, 2026
Last updated
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